Eh, the significance of this is overstated. According to the complaint, proof of German suffering is had in German win rates--which are often lower than their Allied peers WRs. Absolutely you're right on that point, but let's turn the tables here for some perspective. Those things can shrug off even the 10.5 in close combat. I agree though that the lines should be redone, but not only for Germany but for all the nations. Thats because the Germans don't have more modern light tanks in the game. The M18's like any vehicle that doesn't get shot. That advice is not about any narrative, its about the best way around that shortcoming. He usually has like 5 different options. Same procedure as with Panthers. The first two points can be resolved by reforming the German tree to not have the jumps that it has and by requiring players to unlock more vehicles to progress to such higher BRs (as other nations have). 20112022 Gaijin Games Kft. Want Germany to be more competitive at 5.3-6.7? Are there plans to move overpowered vehicles (like Xp-50 or Su-11) to a more reasonable br rating? Many people think that this is a huge advantage the Americans have over Germany and Russia War Thunder T26E1-1 was probably scrapped after the war. At 6.7 the US T series are much more survivable when it comes to being hit. And if you talking about the swingfire it's not a good vehicle. But it will go as well as it would if American tanks went up to 6.7. Is a panther really a good vehicle for flanking? @Loongsheepwell, except that you can just lolpen the entire front with APDS. Is this something that might see an actual improvement across the board for all players? Asparagus can be eaten raw as well as cooked, it is used as a remedy for urinary . All in all, these things boil down to the sort of trade offs that are to be expected. I would just shoot breech, then driver/engine, and then if whatever I was shooting was still alive I would just wittle down it's last crew with the excellent reload and lolpen APDS. The funny part is that you say thatbut you give absolutely no reasonfor why you saythat. I invite others to list other claims of alleged German suffering so that those can be talked about. I haven't shared your issues i go through a T series and it dies normally and I'm more prone to freak out if a IS-6 rolls over a hill than a T series. Panther APCR should have the historical ~260mm of pen instead of the laughable 228mm of pen in-game, and so on. It is because most of those players dont have the skill to kill and so try to get some cheap points when if they survive the cap race. I'd certainly replace the Hs 129B-2/MK 103 if the Bf 110G was a Tier III vehicle. If you haven't noticed I'm implying being one/two steps ahead. One advisory to all readers interested in posting: before you do post, be warned that, No matter how well you argue or what evidence you cite, you will inevitably be attacked by the people who cling to beliefs of German victimhood if you speak out against it--, Nuclear Sciences, Robotics, All Things Engineering, History, This is something that only the brits can do reliably at this BR and you can't just discount it as an advantage. Join the Discord Here: https://discord.gg/cgctjTR5hjHope you all enjoy this video/short from an interesting moment in-game! June 1st, 2020 - panzer ii panzerkampfwagen ii pzkpfw ii sdkfz 121 was a light tank produced in germany in the 1930s until the outbreak of war between germany and the ussr tank . It allows for the a pilot to manually set several engine-related perks on the aircraft while on the fly, with the most important being the radiator and the fuel mixture. T-80U only fixes armor (although weakspots veeerrry preminent), slightly better HP/T (still -10 kph reverse though), and a slightly better reload (6.5s but still slightly slower than other 120mms). Especially for such high brs. And no I wasn't talking about the swingfire I mean the 7.7 german raketenjagdpanzer 2 literally fires the same missiles as the STRV.81 (which also has a gun) and yet sits a whole BR higher for some reason. They are the equivalent to the surge of M22s that the allies occasionally see when some overly loud youtuber decides to make a video about "haha ebic meme tank"causing an influx. Furthermore, using simple math, after 2 Minutes the number of places where the M18 could be is much bigger than the number of places where the Panther could be. Are you serious? He will command the rules of engagement and the battleground not you. Yeah, i totally wonder why you never see people playing them, but I still see the same ol team comps of 90% tiger 2s. You can't aim when they shot in your direction. Nope but you will have your own luxuries instead, the fact that you knew what he was trying to pull off and decided toplan his demise in advanceand he won't have aclue until its too late. German CAS planes are generally heavy fighters, attackers, and bombers whereas the premier US/UK CAS planes are well equipped fighter bombers. A Pz IV F2 can also lol pen a KV-1, Churchill or ARL-44 and probably knock them out with one shot from either front or side. Not possible. You won't have the same luxury. Just an observation maybe its just me. When I review the player profiles of those in the matches I am in, I commonly find such single nation players are the ones who struggle the most. Because they know that there will be most probably a trap when they arrive at the cap point. That's good to hear, I know I did my part to live up to those stories. However it does not. If it's perfectly fine as a comparison, then why is CQC fighting the rulewhen GJ is designing maps,while we clearly can make it a more interesting battle if every nation can face their strengths and shortcomings on the battlefield. 2. I haven't had a single game with Germany either on the same or enemy team without there being a single puma. Still a lot more intuitive. T28 with 305mm of frontal armor at 6.3? There's only one brit 6.7 with atgms, but theres like 5 total with stabs and apds, Also no, the long 88 does not go through T__ tanks with ease, you have to shoot for weakspots which is quite difficultif the enemy is moving or at long range. In a 1 on 1 I would just throw a dice and pick one possible option hoping that he will appear there? The only situation where the Panther would in a clear advantage is a plain map where the M18 has no chance for covered approach. It's strengths clearly outweighs it's burdens when the game is based around city/village structures. His vocals stand in contrast with the somewhat polished production. It's not pleasant to head into an area that's being directly contested, but if you want to win that's how you do it. At least 5 times! Forming a wide line and covering each other. Maus at 7.0? And that brings me to the issues with the economy, the game's economy is soulcrushing, now I do understand that you need people to spend money (and for what it's worth I have), but there is little to no enjoyment for the average player in the game. Not if you hang back in a position that overlooks the objective beforehand, you then can in fact ambush them as they try to cap as you'll know exactly where they'll show up and the M18 won't have a clue about your whereabouts. Puma 50mm Panzergranate has pretty low post pen damage on higher tier tanks. In this video, I and a couple of friends play one of the best lineups in the game.#warthunder #germany #friends ..and I'm not talking about the vehicles, they're OK-ish. The AR with no armor, lackluster speed, no guns, or perhaps the TA which can only do bomber hunting and perhaps a few light vehicles however with limited ammo and frail frame it will get eaten by .50 CAL You can check the loadout options, you either have to pick a fighter, bomber or an attacker, there are no multi task missile and bomb armed super props that can wreck havoc on the ground and then dominate the sky. #warthunder #warthundermemes #warthunderfunny #warthunderclipsTwitch: Twitch.t. Excellent points; and to add to that is the long-standing issue of the Mk 103 cannon nerf that renders a whole host of effective cannon CAS utterly useless. Also the air tech tree actually is borderline OP too. they turn by applying breaks to one track to initiate the turn. With a fast tank it is easier to get to places and to take advantageous positions. Long range eliminations tend to be how I foil most of the cappers I kill. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. What about T95? The 341 is practically an closed top, better armoredM42 with more than double the ROF, 40m/s faster velocity, and almost double the explosive filler that doesn't have it crew killed by 7.62s and doesn't explode from a stray bullet hitting it's exposed ammo. This pretty much says it all, and it describesa fundamental problem with ground RB: the fastesttanks with decent firepowerare the only vehicles in WT that can set up ambushes early game (which helps setting up ambushes mid and late game as well); slower TDs and tanks can't fulfill this role in WT even if they were designed specifically for this purpose and fulfilled it very successfully irl; the brawling maps which drastically cut down the range of engagementscombined with the "early game race" effectively prevents this. The stock ammo misery for every leos and m48 etc. The Soviet nation has very little at 6.X--almost as few vehicles as the Americans do at 4.X. Just hide behind a hill or a tree and wait till the panther finally arrives, and then shoot that big juicy target in the side (i do that all the time, the best vehicle to kill king tigers is actually the M56 Scorpion). The Germany newbies will complain that their chosen tank sucks and the Germany veterans are in their meta premiums taking out entire enemy teams. It is however annoying still though. Theres no reason why being put this tank agains opponents which pens it easy and having slow rate of fire to fight them. And i find that the 88 one shots the T series rather easily now through the turret. Thats because the Germans don't have more modern light tanks in the game. Noone does the same with panthers. In an one on one battle with one cap point andrough, uneven terrain you will lose against the M18 in your panther 8 out of 10 times. I'll have to talk about CAS soon I suppose. Germany has a p-47 just like the allies? What? And the side of the turret doesn't really mean alot as you can still punch through it with basically the same thing as the other you die no matter what so if you good up that shot its on you. It requires however quite some skill to shoot targets in RB from a far and you still lose if noone caps. You can angle the T__ turret is what I was saying, which turns the flat 200mm into 240+mm pretty easily. Charlotte Elizabeth, Principalities and powers in heavenly places, 1842. He can get to cap first and setup an ambush. How do you bounce on a flat piece of armour? I've whacked Leopards with my SU-5-1 but didn't have much to do with the vehicles. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. Oftentimes, if left unharnessed, the cannon birds have better potential to destroy multiple targets. Which isn't as many as the P-47 you still get access to the same 1,000 pounder and 500 pounder it gets just not at once. It's obvious which has the better hull where as its obvious who has the better turret. Panthers has not too much problems in their brs. I am obviously not among the greatest pilots out there but I am decent from what I found on thunderskill and I have to say this is plain wrong. While an M18s speed might allow it to get to a point a few moments before a Panther would, the M18s lack of armor and less capable cannon burden it if something like a Panther arrives shortly thereafter. Japan's OP type 90 has been given an equal. Also .50 cals have too much pen, loosing light tanks and all sorts of AA vehicles to those is no fun, especially if other nation just have to rely on their main guns. And im asking how your angling it. Don't know maybe deserve a new play again. Well one or two not that much but a bit more and flying becomes more problematic. Mobility is the aspect that most German vehicles are less focused on than their peers, but this is made up for by the Germans better firepower/armor than their peers. That vehicle is more treating. That ammo should not be stock! Germany has some of the best CAS, the best SPAA, the best light tanks, and just the best overall line up at 6.7 yet they are generally performing in the range or sometimes below that of worse nations at the same BR despite facing the same threats such as France, Italy, and Japan. the Jumboturret. And T are not impenetrable unless you're downtiered and there are spots you can go througg although theybare easily covered up. Not to mention Algy's unclean, raw and charismatic voice. Interesting, unless you are talking about the driving comfort of the crew I thought we had a couple of long discussions on here where you said main gun bounciness compared to stabilized tanks like the Sherman series are negligible. 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